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Layman : Financials of public companies seem to be almost secondary to public perception nowadays. Look at Tesla and solar stocks. Most have gone up hundreds of percent if not thousands of percent in last few years while their financials are extremely poor. The market has become a self-licking ice cream cone and it's no longer good decisions that are rewarded, but hype and marketing.
But for the people who work at these companies or depend on their products, it's not a casino game - it's their livelihood and their lives.
When jobs are cut in the name of making the quarterly target, people lose their homes. When the desire for more profit more than triples the price of insulin in 10 years despite it being patent-free for nearly years, people die.
For the last 40 years, we've been content to pretend the market is some sort of Darwinian culling machine for companies. But it's been a facade all along, and the people most hurt aren't the people at the top of the pyramid - it's the people at the bottom. Zero-hours contracts means poor uberized workers: www. This "Zero-hours contracts" seems to be a UK thing: en. Was always gonna happen. Was just a high end Halfords. Capitalism is broken. We need some large scale adjustments.
I don't disagree with this take, and capitalism is working out for me and my wife just fine. I hate seeing how much people in the US struggle with basics while the best off lobby against anyone's interest but their own. HB : Bingo! Peally Mar 10, at HB : The "basics" are extremely relative. Peally : Food, shelter, clothes, healthcare, childcare, and education. Not that relative if you as me.
Capitalism isn't broken, it's just that most capitalist societies unfortunately drift towards cronyism ie. The solution, at least in the US, is divorcing money from politics and getting rid of the electoral college.
Most Americans want better social programs, but the way are government is structured means that small states I live in one of them have huge influence over federal level policy. Esmond Mar 10, at HB : Getting rid if the electoral college will do harm to those people in the middle of the country fly over states.
Our founding fathers were very flawed men, but they understood that we all need to be represented as equally as possible. We need to give more power back to individual states and less power to the federal "one solution fits all" government. Each state has different problems and issues. We can't allow the the left coast or right coast dictate what happens in the middle. I agree divorcing all money from corporations, lobby groups, and all labor unions from donating money to political parties.
I am pro-capitalism with restraint that favors the middle class. We need to get rid of every congressmen and senator that has been in DC for more than one term, too many old out of touch politicians. Esmond : "Our founding fathers were very flawed men, but they understood that we all need to be represented as equally as possible.
If anything, it makes people in small states more equal than large states. This was a compromise based on slave states wanting power, so I wouldn't push this too much. I live in the "middle" and my state is set up in the same way, with small areas getting more power than the large areas. Guess what they focus on? Super regressive policies that hurt the population.
They are literally trying to make it harder to get ballot initiatives going so we can't pass medicial marijuana, even though most of the state wants it. Esmond : What issues specifically are you concerned would not be represented, however? I mean, having something like a public option actually helps people living in smaller states more since they tend to be more rural and poor. Public lands? Well, Democrats seem to want to protect public lands more than any member of the GOP.
Trump just got off a four year attack on public lands after all. I guess on cultural issues, maybe, but not the issues that affect the well being of someone's day to day life, such as healthcare, childcare, union protections, etc.
HB : Agreed up to your comment "small states Doesn't have anything to do with states per se. Esmond : That's a mythology mate. The reason it's a myth is because of something called "winner take all". The electoral college is literally the most undemocratic thing we have in this country. It does nothing but take the "losing party's" votes in a given state and throw them in the trash! It would be way better to have an open popular system.
Then at least the "losing party's" votes would actually be counted towards something!! DylanH93 Mar 10, at Esmond : definitely agree with this take. I'm from CA, trust me you don't want us having even more control over everyone.
Things need to change but the electoral college is important. Like you said, getting money and politics split apart is what we need and term limits. It's insane how long some of our congressmen have been in power and how crazy rich they've gotten while constantly promising change and blaming the other side. It's one big party. Thanks for hearing me out at least. Pinkbike MTB forums are probably not the place to debate these things in depth haha. It is puzzling to me how some people are anti-capitalism, but pro-globalism.
Breeconay Mar 10, at And here it goes: if one of the largest issues with capitalism is corruption, moreover legalized corruption aka lobbying, would everyone agree that it is a fundamental aspect of capitalism since it appears in every form of capitalistic government to varying degrees?
Just as a side note I mostly agree with you. I think that capitalism tends to gravitate towards corruption because its a natural commodification of power and privilege. Cronyism is an unfortunate side effect of power dynamics I personally think that capitalism has a great carrot but the stick has been shrunken to the point that the punishments are not proportional to crimes, especially for the powerful. And that needs to be fixed first.
Breeconay : Corruption and cronyism exist in every type of economic system ie. I was born and raised in a socialist Soviet satellite state and corruption is embedded in absolutely every single part of society.
Its hard for people to understand what its like to have to bribe and grease every single person you have interactions with.
I think people need to remember context and that everything is relative. If someone thinks capitalism is broken, I say "compared to what? I wish these employees the best of luck in finding new employment, but this isn't a sign that capitalism is broken, rather a management team full of ssholes.
It's very well thought out and from experience. I have no malice towards capitalism, I just think we've exposed parts of it that need addressing, like cronyism and unique forms of corruption. It's in need of the bike equivalent of a tuneup. I merely hope we can take a productive system and improve it to the benefit of all. Oddly enough pinkbike is kinder than reddit.
I am stoked to ride soon, though. Look around, you see it everywhere. It's grooming. Single payer health care, wealth tax, student loan forgiveness, UBI? Tomorrow these become: ban on private medical care, confiscation of wealth over a certain amount only of those not of the goverment class mind you , State owned higher education and labor assignments hello Caste system!!
Our only real hope is the next generation rebels against this feckless Millenial generation and values freedom, liberty and the innate right of man to be independant. HB : the EC is the only barrier between the representive republic and mob rule. That is wildly immoral. HB : Cheers! You're watching a 5 year plan to liquidation in action.
I saw the hat and pretty much knew the story If you're American--this is normal business "leadership". Can't be happy with 1. It's time for everybody to stop work and say we ain't down with your relentless pursuit of money They hide behind drugs, ex-wives and a fake persona.
They are ruining all the fun. Lorieng Mar 10, at Maybe norco will turn to independent dealers now. My shop was rejected due to their exclusive deal with evans. Does norco have any idea how bad that sounds as a consumer? Arfur Mar 10, at Moskau Mar 10, at I work in an independent store. We also reached out and got told To hold on and reach out again soon Lorieng Mar 12, at Moskau : I did tell them that evans has a pretty poor rep in the uk and is going bust.
They said its not in their plans to change it anytime soon. More fool them. They have awesome bikes but could sell 10x more of they werent exclusive to evans. PlebTheClown Mar 10, at Loved my time working at evans, Mike arsehole killed the company during the pandemic, taking away the work shops ability to be able to order parts for repairs or upgrades turned a lot of business away. Dude's got a net worth of nearly two billion dollars Gamertebo Mar 10, at How do you think he got the 2B?
This is his business and he can run it how he wants. Funny how everybody knows all the margins and bottom lines for Evans cycles all the sudden A la Bezos, musk, gates, Buffett, etc. All I get from this brief exchange is that we are both wasting our time bantering about something that really has no impact on us and is going to repeat itself many times over in different ways.
We should just go ride our bikes man. It was an insult to all passionate cyclists working for them. Will they attract anyone who is into the sport to work for them? Highly unlikely. They have no idea about cycling and do not understand our world works. Saying this, even before Sports Direct took over, Evans were wasting money everywhere, more concerned about how their stores look like, than their staff, losing so many passionate and knowledgeable people, because they did not want to pay them just a little bit more.
Always just above the minimum wage. London living wage? So not make me laugh. Worked with amazing people there, made friends for life, learned a lot and had a great time working for Evans, but the patent was sick a long time before the takeover. There were some good days In the 10months I worked there I never saw my Evans pay check.
Hope the affected staff find great jobs. Snfoilhat Mar 10, at It's stylish now to dunk on the obvious greed of big businesses, but before you go high five your rider-owned LBS' managers, ask them as politely as you like how much they pay, what kind of benefits they offer, what kind of stability in hours and schedules their employees or contractors get.
I don't think you read the article. I mean I know it's a staggering paragraphs long almost rivaling the novel War and Peace , so I can't blame you for missing this part Frasers Group pledged to stop using zero-hour contracts five years ago after the group faced criticism from unions and members of parliament.
However, nothing changed, and the issue remains polarizing. I sincerely don't understand what you're trying to draw may attention to. In the US and likely in some other nations represented on PB, even not being an independent contract worker being an employee , doesn't guarantee a worker regular work hours. If you're part-time like many bike shop employees, you have very few rights beyond what a IC worker gets.
And so rate of hourly pay is surely one of the top indicators of how well the shop is taking care of their workers. So is how regular their schedules are My point is that just being a rider-owned LBS doesn't indicate employment practices that are one shred better than those of this shtty UK megastore. A consumer has to ask how they treat their workers before running to social media to upvote the LBS.
I've worked in three shops, each totally different. Snfoilhat : My point is I do see your point about a larger company having more resources for steady employment, but that is 10 year ago thinking.
They don't want to pay people anymore I just thought it was funny that some of the points you were making, were exactly mentioned in the article No matter what It's a big club-and you and I ain't in it. I forget who said thatbut he said some other funny stuff to.
I went to Evans once , pre Mike Ashley, as my gear cable had broken on my commute into work, after two people spent 5 minutes looking at a screen they told me they were too busy, I assumed they were joking, they weren't so I never went back. Ashley is a complete twat and turns most things to shite. Stokedonthis Mar 10, at We'll see more of this.. And it's not just bike shops, this is going to be a global shift in many different industries as our economies pivot to a new way of doing business.
Mntneer Mar 10, at Restructuring has been going on for a long time and in many industries. Mntneer : hold capitalism's beer. Gavalar66 Mar 10, at Mike Ashley and his cronies are clueless about the cycle industry and the need of those who still support the brand, companies such as Norco need to wake up and remove their brand from Evans, they're the wrong fit for such a forward thinking brand, it would seem that Evans is the only cycling business going backwards in the current pandemic cycling boom, shame on Ashley.
Lasse Mar 10, at Sad story. Germany might lose against all those turbo capitalism states in the future, but i still like the idea of social market economy. So, hello future. Germany seems to be doing rather well. My dang great grandfather left germany years ago HB : You are truly clueless. That translates as 6 full days a week - 8 hrs a day with a half hour lunch break. Most people in the UK only work 5 days a week, so not that lucky No more after work biking for those guys????
BadWeevil Mar 10, at I did a couple and thoroughly enjoyed them and was impressed by the organisation. Last year's programme was cancelled because of Covid so was wondering whether they used that to bring the programme to an end.
Dale17 Mar 10, at It was never a profit making thing for Evans, purely for marketing The fact you enjoyed them proves it worked Unfortunately lower rider numbers and yearly increases in costs meant the amount it was costing the company became too much to run in the usual format. So we rethought the offering, lost some staff and came up with a figure they begrudging accepted. That was March last year. As soon as Covid hit they basically used it as the excuse they needed to wrap it up. Not that we'd have lasted too much longer by the look of it either.
What hasn't been widely reported is that they intend to close the Gatwick HQ and move everything up to Shirebrook, it might have already happened. So that's basically the whole company except the store staff unemployed or perhaps offered a move to Derbyshire. Evans Cycles no longer exists, it's now just another stall in the SportsDirect stable. I think you'll find a few of the old staff there as well Dale17 : That's a real shame but thank you for the heads up about Sportive Breaks.
Hopefully they and other companies will step into the space and expand their offering. I always had a good time on Ride It events riding new places and meeting other like minded people.
The head office was full of great, knowledgeable staff who wanted Evans to survive. Now it'll be SD staff who don't understand the industry and will focus on profits, making it Evans Cycles in name only.
Feel sorry for the staff, who are clearly regarded as having little value. This is sad to read. I love the Pinnacle Chromium concept of a Women's do-it-all urban bicycle. I was that close to buying from UK for my missus, but the didn't quite like the shapes and looks.
But on paper this was a great product at a reasonable price range, meeting my needs at least: comfort, modern, with retro looks yet light weight. Sirios Mar 11, at And look how that's going. Evans Cycles has announced the opening of a new store in Sutton, London.
Ashley soon apologised and shut all Sports Direct — at the same time that as Evans Cycles — stores. Evans then went on to open the doors to 11 stores at the end of March and in April opened a further 9 stores. However, despite these incentives, many customers have been left underwhelmed and annoyed by the retail chain due to lack of communication with customers and inability to meet delivery promises for a large part of the Covid outbreak.
The industry at large has struggled with bike stock having imported historically low numbers into the UK on all but e-Bikes, something compounded by production lines shutting or running at lowered capacity during the worst of the outbreak so far. The firm did not respond to a CI. N request for comment on the back of a wave of criticism on social channels in recent months. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly.
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